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Sandro Vergueiro's avatar

Great analysis, really enjoyed it. My view: the risks outweigh the returns.

Building Arks's avatar

I’m with you, and thanks, but in fairness to the bulls, we won’t really know until it’s been through a downturn.

Sandro Vergueiro's avatar

True, we just have to wait, the market is cyclical, eventually the environment will turn negative

Sophia W's avatar

The management fee structure alone would give me pause — 1.5% on gross tangible capital, not net, creates exactly the wrong incentives at exactly the wrong time. What this analysis surfaces that most Millrose coverage glosses over is the asymmetry of the homebuilder option: they get the upside of land appreciation, they can walk when projects go sideways, and Millrose is still on the hook for horizontal infrastructure costs regardless. That's not a land bank, that's a publicly traded entity absorbing the capital-heavy tail risk so Lennar can look capital-light on their balance sheet. The cashflow timing mismatch in a downcycle scenario is the piece that deserves more attention than it gets — the income stops before the obligations do, and that gap can move fast. For anyone drawn to the 10% yield, the honest question is whether you're being compensated for that specific risk or just for the illiquidity and complexity of understanding it. What's the actual bear case threshold where the dividend math breaks down — has anyone modeled a 20-30% option non-exercise rate?

Building Arks's avatar

Also, if you’re into emerging markets real estate, I’d love your thoughts on my IRSA review.

Building Arks's avatar

The asymmetry is even worse than that - Millrose isn't only on the hook for horizontal infra, it's on the hook for environmental remediation and homeowner lawsuits if the homebuilder doesn't exercise.

As for modelling non-exercise rates, there are two issues. First, Millrose can't make profits on the sale of good land, so *any* losses on bad land will erode bvps (and eventually dps). Second, while I haven't explicitly modelled non-exercise rates, there isn't a lot of cash on hand so any slowdown in option exercising that isn't matched by a slowdown in horizontal infrastructure development has the potential to cause issues. A key underlying question is: will homebuilders want Millrose to keep funding horizontal infra through a downturn so they have homesites ready for the upturn? It is hard to imagine why the answer would be no.

Also on the cash flow timing point: in the next housing downturn the stock market will worry about this whether it happens or not. I could easily imagine this trading at 50% of book even if the cash keeps flowing. Indeed, that might be the time to buy.

Sophia W's avatar

That remediation and litigation exposure is the part that really doesn't get priced in — environmental reclamation costs on a stalled project aren't just a line item, they're open-ended and timeline-unpredictable in a way that makes the deposit/termination fee protection look thin. Your point about homebuilders wanting horizontal infrastructure to keep moving through a downturn is the most interesting tension in this whole structure — it's probably true, which means Millrose's cash keeps flowing out even when the housing market is signaling stop. That's not a bug the pooling provisions were designed to fix. If the "time to buy" moment is 50% of book during a downcycle panic, the harder question is whether the per-share book value itself holds — or whether by that point the erosion you're describing has already quietly happened. Has anyone in the REIT analyst community actually stress-tested the bvps trajectory under a multi-year non-exercise scenario, or is everyone just anchoring to the spin-out marks?

Building Arks's avatar

Only thing I would add is: some things you don’t need to model. That kind of cash outflow risks being terminal.